Legislature(2017 - 2018)GRUENBERG 120

02/01/2017 02:15 PM House JUDICIARY

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02:35:54 PM Start
02:36:32 PM HB24
03:01:32 PM Adjourn
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*+ HB 24 LIST U-47700 AS A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 24 Out of Committee
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          HB 24-LIST U-47700 AS A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:36:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN  announced  that   the  only  business  before  the                                                               
committee is HOUSE BILL NO. 24,  "An Act classifying U-47700 as a                                                               
schedule IA controlled substance;  and providing for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:37:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHARISSE   MILLETT,  Alaska   State  Legislature,                                                               
advised that HB 24 addresses  the opioid crisis epidemic.  People                                                               
around  the  state are  losing  their  lives,  once a  person  is                                                               
addicted to  opioids it  is one  of the  most dangerous  drugs to                                                               
manage, and is  one of the hardest  drugs to get off.   This bill                                                               
addresses additive  U-47700, a synthetic  opioid added  to heroin                                                               
and  other  street  drugs.    She said  U-47700  is  eight  times                                                               
stronger  than fentanyl  and has  a  street name  of "Pink,"  and                                                               
people unknowingly  buy heroin with  U-47700 added as one  of the                                                               
ingredients.  This bill simply  adds U-47700 to schedule 1A, with                                                               
the       chemical       makeup       of       3,4-dichloro-N-[2-                                                               
(dimethylamino)cyclohexvl]-N-methylbenamide,  also  known  as  U-                                                               
47700 or "Pink."   She advised that this bill came  to her by way                                                               
of the  governor, and  as a  recommendations from  the Controlled                                                               
Substances Advisory  Committee (CSAC)  to add Pink  onto schedule                                                               
1A.  Designer  drugs, such as U-47700, are produced  on a regular                                                               
basis and it's hard to predict  what the synthetic makeup of that                                                               
drug will be, but it can be put  on the list after it is defined.                                                               
These  designer  drugs are  becoming  stronger  and more  potent,                                                               
produced from countries outside of  the USA, and because they are                                                               
not currently  on the  state's registry one  could go  online and                                                               
buy U-47700 through  an internet website.  Outlawing  this in the                                                               
State  of Alaska  will make  it unavailable,  she stressed.   The                                                               
federal government recently put U-47700  on its schedule and, she                                                               
commented, the  federal government  has a  unique way  of putting                                                               
their scheduled drugs  onto the federal registry  because it goes                                                               
through  a  regulatory process,  and  not  through a  legislative                                                               
process.    She  suggested  adding a  regulatory  option  to  the                                                               
state's scheduled  drugs, especially drugs as  dangerous as Pink,                                                               
U-47700.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  explained there is no  sectional analysis                                                               
because it simply adds the chemical makeup of 3,4-dichloro-N-[2-                                                                
(dimethylamino)cyclohexvl]-N-methylbenamide   to    the   state's                                                               
schedule 1A statute.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:41:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS  commented that  it makes  sense to                                                               
have a  regulatory process allowing the  designated department to                                                               
use its discretion.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MILLETT  suggested   that  possibly   the  House                                                               
Judiciary  Standing  Committee  could   determine  a  process  of                                                               
putting drugs on a schedule  through the regulatory process.  She                                                               
described it  as a  large piece  of legislation  that would  be a                                                               
work of art  in putting sideboards on what  the regulations could                                                               
and would  not allow,.   She  commented that it  would be  a good                                                               
task  for this  committee.   Due to  the urgency  of the  U-47700                                                               
problem, she  was unsure this  legislation should be  slowed down                                                               
to  add  her suggestion,  although,  it  is a  conversation  that                                                               
should take place, she said.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:42:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    LEDOUX   explained    that   she    understands                                                               
Representative  Kreiss-Tomkins notion,  yet the  idea of  putting                                                               
criminal laws  into regulations and going  through the regulatory                                                               
process to decide  a criminal law, as opposed  to the legislative                                                               
process, is frightening to her and it may be unconstitutional.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP advised  the committee  that this  synthetic                                                               
drug has been identified for some  time as a major problem within                                                               
the law  enforcement community.   He  explained, under  AS 11.71,                                                               
Controlled Substances Advisory  Committee (CSAC), the committee's                                                               
duty is to  make sure substances are classified  according to the                                                               
correct schedule  in the state's  statutes, and prepare  a report                                                               
for the  governor.  The  committee members include  a pharmacist,                                                               
medical  people,  law enforcement,  and  others,  and it  reviews                                                               
various  public safety  effects on  each drug.   He  reminded the                                                               
committee  that CSAC  is in  place,  and he  requested that  this                                                               
legislation receive the nod of CSAC.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MILLETT   reminded  Representative   Kopp   that                                                               
initially  she had  advised the  committee that  this legislation                                                               
came as a  recommendation from CSAC.  She said  that AS 11.71.100                                                               
does a good job of identifying  substances on the street, and the                                                               
committee was  formed to assist legislators  in understanding the                                                               
subject  of synthetic  drugs, and  that the  drug Spice  was used                                                               
under CSAC.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:44:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FANSLER agreed that  the opioid epidemic in Alaska                                                               
crosses  all cultures,  barriers, is  everywhere, and  he thanked                                                               
the sponsor  for this  legislation.   He noted  that he  would be                                                               
interested  in  making  sure  the state  has  bodies  giving  the                                                               
legislature   recommendations  such   as  this,   and  that   the                                                               
legislation is passed timely                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  said he  noticed, within the  report from                                                               
CSAC  that   two  different   substances  were   recommended  for                                                               
reclassification.   He asked whether  there was any  intention of                                                               
moving on the other substance as well.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  replied that the other  substance was not                                                               
included  because U-47700  was a  clearly defined  substance that                                                               
the legislature  could immediately  put into  statute.   She said                                                               
she would entertain a friendly amendment  if he wanted to add the                                                               
other substance,  although, she  stressed, at this  point U-47700                                                               
is hitting the streets and causing deaths in Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:46:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether the  deaths caused  by this                                                               
substance were by overdoses, or impurities in the substance.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT pointed  to the  reports provided  in the                                                               
committee  packets, and  advised  that U-47700  is an  incredibly                                                               
high potency drug that is eight  times as potent as fentanyl, and                                                               
fentanyl  has caused  some high  profile deaths.   She  explained                                                               
that U-47700 is an additive  that in itself increases the potency                                                               
of  the drug  being  used,  and the  deaths  are  caused by  both                                                               
overdoses  and  impurities  because  this  drug  is  produced  in                                                               
laboratories across  the world with  no FDA approval.   She added                                                               
that there  is no  direct use  for this  drug in  that it  was an                                                               
experimental synthetic drug  to use for surgeries,  much like how                                                               
fentanyl is used.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:48:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  HENDERSON, Chief  Assistant Attorney,  General and  White                                                               
Collar   Crime  Prosecutor,   Office   of  Special   Prosecution,                                                               
Department of  Law (DOL), explained  that within his  capacity at                                                               
the Department  of Law (DOL)  he is  the chair of  the Controlled                                                               
Substances Advisory Committee  (CSAC).  He said  he was available                                                               
to  answer   questions  regarding  CSAC's  process   or  U-47700,                                                               
specifically.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  asked  Mr.  Henderson  to  briefly  walk                                                               
through  what  adding  this  particular   substance  to  the  new                                                               
designation  would  have,  and   explained  the  implications  of                                                               
passing this legislation and penalties.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:49:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON responded that by  scheduling U-47700 as a schedule                                                               
1A  controlled   substance,  the  penalties  would   include  the                                                               
following: mere  possession of the  substance would be a  class A                                                               
misdemeanor; possession with the intent  to deliver less than one                                                               
gram, a  class C  felony; possession with  the intent  to deliver                                                               
more than one gram, a class  B felony; and the actual delivery of                                                               
the substance  to a person  under the age  of 19, "if  the person                                                               
delivering the  substance and the person  receiving the substance                                                               
is less than three years," an unclassified felony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:50:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked  him to spell out  the sentences for                                                               
each of those offenses, under Senate Bill 91.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:50:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HENDERSON  explained  that   with  mere  possession  of  the                                                               
substance, first offense, there is  no active jail time and there                                                               
is a limited amount of suspended  time.  The maximum sentence for                                                               
a person  found guilty of  possessing this substance would  be 30                                                               
days with 30  days suspended.  With regard  to second conviction,                                                               
under current law,  no active jail time could be  imposed and the                                                               
suspended  time would  be an  upper  suspension of  180 days,  he                                                               
explained.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON  explained a class  C felony - possession  with the                                                               
intent to  distribute less than  one gram, the sentence  would be                                                               
dictated by their  criminal history, but assuming  the person has                                                               
no criminal felony  history, it would be  a probationary sentence                                                               
of up to 18 months suspended time.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON explained  the class B felony -  possession of more                                                               
than one gram, the sentence would  be zero to two years of active                                                               
jail  time,   authorized  by  the   court,  on  a   first  felony                                                               
conviction.   He  continued that  there  are graduated  sentences                                                               
depending  upon  the  person's  criminal  history,  particularly,                                                               
felony history.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:52:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP added  that  there is  a criminal  financial                                                               
penalty such  that a misdemeanor  is up  to $10,000, and  once it                                                               
moves into the felony range it moves up considerably.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON replied that he was correct.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP explained  to the  committee that  suspended                                                               
time means  that any  infraction [punishes  the person  to] serve                                                               
that time.  He related that it  may appear a person "is off," but                                                               
the person is under the gun so to speak.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  listed individuals online available  for questions,                                                               
and opened public testimony on HB  24.  After ascertaining no one                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 24.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:54:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked Mr.  Henderson to explain  the zero                                                               
fiscal note for DOL.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HENDERSON  opined  that  in  the  event  U-47700  becomes  a                                                               
schedule  1A  drug, DOL  would  incur  the prosecution  costs  of                                                               
prosecuting  and trying  someone in  court in  possession of  the                                                               
drug.   Whether  or  not that  will be  a  significant number  of                                                               
prosecutions  while moving  forward is  unknown, he  pointed out.                                                               
Currently, with  regard to an  unscheduled drug,  law enforcement                                                               
is unable  to seize that drug  and because it is  unable to seize                                                               
the drug, DOL is not necessarily  seeing how frequent it has been                                                               
found by law  enforcement.  He deferred to Dr.  Butler to discuss                                                               
how often this substance is seen in overdose deaths.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:56:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  TURNER,  Staff,  Representative  Charisse  Millett,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,   referred  to   the  issue  of   creating  a                                                               
regulatory system to  ban these types of drugs when  they hit the                                                               
streets, and advised  that the system is in place  in at least 10                                                               
states, 10 states have already  placed emergency bans on U-47700,                                                               
and  some of  those bans  have become  permanent.   There are  17                                                               
states that  have legislation before their  legislature to outlaw                                                               
U-47700.  Historically, he said,  this drug was developed in 1976                                                               
by Upjohn  in looking for  a replacement for morphine  for cancer                                                               
patients,  surgery patients,  people with  serious injuries,  and                                                               
discovered that it  wasn't much different from  morphine.  Upjohn                                                               
patented the drug and did  not perform clinical trials on humans.                                                               
Unfortunately,  drug  dealers  in  foreign  countries,  primarily                                                               
China,  troll the  internet looking  for these  patents and  what                                                               
sort of design  or synthetic drugs they can produce  that are not                                                               
banned under any  federal or state laws, and then  sell it on the                                                               
internet.     He  explained  that   when  the   Drug  Enforcement                                                               
Administration (DEA) placed  this drug on its list  of schedule 1                                                               
controlled substances, the internet  sales pretty much went away,                                                               
except he  googled Pink  and found  a website  selling it.   Even                                                               
though the website  said it was based in South  Korea there is no                                                               
way to authentic,  the website also said the drug  was for animal                                                               
testing; however,  it recommended cutting the  dosage in one-half                                                               
if used for human consumption, he pointed out.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:58:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked for clarification  that Congress added U-47700                                                               
to the federal list of controlled substances some months ago.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HENDERSON  clarified  that  it was  actually  added  by  DEA                                                               
regulation because DEA  has the ability to place the  drug on its                                                               
schedule 1  list, at  least temporarily.   He explained  that the                                                               
drug can  be listed  for one  to two  years, and  then it  can be                                                               
extended  another   year  before  deciding  whether   to  ban  it                                                               
permanently.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked  whether Congress must finally  take action to                                                               
add it permanently to the list.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDERSON said that that is his understanding.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked whether the  committee would like  to discuss                                                               
the bill further.  After no  response, asked for a motion to move                                                               
the bill out of committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:00:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FANSLER  restated his  motion and moved  to report                                                               
HB  24,  Version 30-LS0260\A  out  of  committee with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no  objection, HB  24  moved from  the  House Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

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